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List Quality

My name is gloria and I own the HolisticBird list..

Discussion lists are not democracies. They are dictatorships run by a list
owner. Each list has its own character. Some are casual and some are strict.
This list is strict, but believe it or not, other lists are even more so.

If you do not like the character of this list, I encourage you to leave.


Don't bother to criticize the way the list is run. It will not change to suit
you. Don't bother to criticize me. I won't change to suit you either.

This list was intended to provide quality information about improving health and life
of companion birds from the wholistic perspective. That is what most of the members want for this list and that is what we will have.

Those of you who share these expectations are welcome to stay. Those who do
not are welcome to go.

I made the rules. If I happen to break one or two, that is my privilege. It is not license for you to do the same. This is unfair, but it is reality.

Some folks say my attitude is not very nice. They are correct. It isn't. If you joined this list to socialize or chat, you came here for the wrong reason. This list is about holistic health for birds. It is not a social club.

Anyone who violates list rules will be summarily unsubscribed without warning.....except for me, of course.....and several really neat and lovely people who have been model members for years. My advice would be to follow their fine example. That way you will learn a lot and enjoy your stay.

List Guidelines

1.  The list focus is holistic health and healing for birds

Anything else is off-topic and may not be posted.

Here is a list of Off Topic Subjects

No SPAM. (that includes putting our list in your address book and sending the same message to all of your lists.)

No JOKES

No FICTION (including heart warming or tear jerker stories)

No ADVERTISEMENTS of anything you make or sell

No NEGOTIATONS for selling or purchasing

No POLITICS (including letter writing campaigns for anything)

No VIRUS WARNINGS (send them to the list owner for evaluation)

No SLANDER or LIBEL

No RUMORS or GOSSIP

The above list of off-topic subjects doesn't include everything but is a good indication of what is inappropriate. If you have questions about whether a topic is acceptable for the list, stay out of trouble and ask the

Approved Topics

If you havean idea for a topic to be added below, feel free to suggest it either
on list or to me privately. I'll be happy to consider it. No doubt I missed
something.

Topics should relate to birds but people and other animals could be used as
examples through analogy. ( eg. If your dog has a skin ailment from a food
allergy, this could relate to a bird's skin ailment from a food allergy.)

FOOD
diet
foods
recipes
nutrition
supplements
phytonutrients
THERAPEUTICS
neutraceuticals
herbs
homeopathics
accupuncture
energy healing
OCCUPATION
exercise
toys
music, tv
training
social interaction
ENVIRONMENT
cage
dishes
substrate (tray liners)
sanitation
pollution
disinfectants
household dangers
safety issues
BEHAVIOR
screaming
biting
phobias
training
mating
messing
talking
EDUCATION
books
websites
media programs and articles
SPECIES
psittascines
passerines
ratites
poultry
raptors
domestic, feral, wild
AILMENTS
degenerative diseases
contagious diseases
bacterial and viral diseases
psychological diseases
nutritional disorders
STRUGGLES
SUCCESSES
FAILURES
PRODUCTS
discovered
recommended
not recommended - you can say a product is ineffective or dangerous but you
can't accuse the manufacturer or seller of anything
RECOMMENDATIONS
veterinarians
products
behaviorists
avian services
more to come......

 

2. Respect one another. List members come from different political, cultural, and religious backgrounds. We are together to discuss avian health and healing. There will be no name calling, comments, or innuendo intended to hurt or demean members of this list. Personal attacks are not tolerated. 

3. Disagreeing is not the same as disrespect.  It merely questions a concept.  Do not take disagreement personally. We can disagree with respect for the other person's feelings and beliefs.  We can discuss the issue and share our reasoning. After a discussion, if it is determined that we cannot reach agreement, then we drop the subject and agree to disagree. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

4. We strive for accuracy. We courteously challenge. If you present a statment as fact, you should be prepared to back it up with more than your opinion. Holistic healing methods take enough of a beating without someone making thoughtless grandiose claims that have little basis in reality. Expect your references to be checked.

5. Trim your Posts

  • Do not quote the whole post or the whole digest. Double check BEFORE you click send.
  • Do quote the sentence or two that describes to what you are replying and paste it into your reply.
  • If it's a private discussion between two people, take it private. An example would be telling someone where they can purchase something in their area. Such information is of no use to members of the list who do not live in that area.

6. Have the subject line of your post reflect its contents.  This is very important because list members use the subject line to determine whether or not to waste their time reading the post. Some members are only interested in particular topics.

7. Don't join the list and tell us how to run it. If you feel these guidelines are too strict for your personality, consider joining any of the many other discussion lists and chat lists for bird owners. This list is not a chat list or a general topic discussion list..

8. Leeway is occasionaly granted, at the listowner's discretion, to those who have been on the list for a long time and have shared their time and knowledge with other list members.

9. List Trolls will be banned. What is a list troll? 'Troll', is used in the context of fishing. List trolls join lists to cause discord. They 'bait' listmembers with comments and innuendo. When a sensitive person is 'hooked', trolls 'play' that member with the intention of making that person lose control, get hurt, get angry, or leave the list. Sometimes trolls work in pairs or trios. They usually join the list within a day or two of one another.

These guidelines will be adjusted as necessary

gloria